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Is US society working according to their very high GDP though?

Estonia GDP is measured in billions and yet their infant mortality rate is half than US despite their trillions of dollars of GDP



Be careful with your cherry picked stats. Countries don't measure infant mortality the same way.

Not to mention Estonia's lower infant mortality doesn't actually disprove my comment.


It actually does

I cherry picked infant mortality rate because I didn't want to pick the most embarrassing US stats, like life expectancy (lowest in the west despite the highest healthcare spending per capita) and homicide rate (4 times the Nigeria, 6 times China, 10 times Europe)

The fact that even little Estonia can handle infant mortality rate better than a superpower like USA it's kinda revealing

I'm also quite sure that if I picked China and its almost double infant mortality rate you wouldn't have though I was cherry picking

US is good at making money, but it's not a good indicator that they know how to spend them the right way

> The numbers in the U.S. are partly driven by gun deaths. From 2001 to 2010, 15-to-19-year-olds were 82 times more likely to die from gun violence in the U.S. than in other wealthy countries. Thakrar also attributes the higher U.S. child and infant mortality rates to a lack of preventative care.

Thakrar is Ashish Thakrar, medical resident at the Johns Hopkins Hospital and Health System.


I'll repeat myself. The definition of infant mortality is not the same across all countries. For example, if a baby is born at less than 1 lb or before 21 weeks, it's a stillbirth and not counted as infant mortality in many countries (I have no idea about Estonia). In the US, is is counted.

Regardless, let's get back to my original comment.

GDP is important. It's what pays for government services, you may not agree that the US does enough, but that doesn't change the fact GDP pays for it.


OECDs countries use the same stats everywhere

USA ranks 34th on 36 countries

> GDP is important. It's what pays for government services

It depends on what you buy with it and how much of it goes back to society in the form of government services for the public

For rich countries in the G20 it shouldn't matter as much as how you redistribute it

I'll repeat myself, despite the highest GDP in the World USA can't even pay for the citizens' right to not be shot in the streets

What is it good for then?


OECDs countries use the same stats everywhere

No they don't. They collect the same stats, but they aren't necessarily comparable.


even if it was true, it's still the 34th position over 36 countries

The richest country in the World is 34th

I think you have a problem there, no matter how much you try to find excuses for it

> Metodology Membership in the OECD was used as a proxy for similar nations to the U.S. The group was narrowed to OECD members with 50 years of high-quality data, minus the U.S. It includes: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.


Most Americans cannot deal with knowing our government and society is a trainwreck that exists to print cash




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