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I only bought a Pixel because of GrapheneOS.

I think I've never had this few issues with a phone. (I only had Samsung phones before this)

It feels even better than the Android that the Pixels ship with, I used it for a day before I flashed GrapheneOS, and I can completely understand why one would not buy a Pixel again if they only experienced the Stock OS.



I'm always interested in trying things like that, but I'm not that into playing some sort of "jailbreak cat and mouse" over time. If I install GrapheneOS, is it automatic after that for security updates and whatnot, or do I have to do some weird two-hands-three-fingers reboot and manually download, etc?


Graphene OS has automatic updates, prompts you for reboots after installing them via notification.


Yes, it's fully automated OTA updates with GrapheneOS.

(running it since 9mo on my Pixel 8)


What about banking apps ? Do they work correctly ? Do they complain that you don't have genuine phone ?


My banking apps all work (three different german banks), but the app from my health insurance does not want to work.

Relevant recent submission:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215126


Speaking as a Calyx user since 2020, the install experience was a bit finnicky, and it required no ongoing manual maintenance. My understanding is the web installer is pretty easy now though.

One caveat: Unlocking the bootloader deletes the disk. This is a reasonable security measure, but it means you don't want to use the phone for anything important before installing Graphene.


What excited you about Graphene?


Probably the top reason I wanted to get GrapheneOS was the privacy/security aspect of it, this includes: no google play services by default, multiple user profiles (more than the Stock OS can have), a network permission for apps (this normally can't be toggled), disabling all usb data connections (can easily be activated in the Settings if I need it), Bootloader can be locked again after flashing the ROM and much more.

It also has very frequent updates, and my phone will get them for a long time (also true for the Stock Android on Pixels, but that one really sucks), which was also very important for me, as I want to be able to use my phone as long as possible.

What made this even more appeling is the possibility to install sandboxed google play in a seperate profile/user for apps that really need it, which works surprisingly well, and even then the google play services don't run with elevated permissions like they normally do, but with the same permissions like other apps.

And the battery life is insane, if I don't use my phone it basically does not loose any battery, and even with heavy usage I don't need to charge it daily.

So GrapheneOS was the easiest way to start degoogling (kind of ironic using Google Hardware) my mobile phone, while still being able to run nearly all of the Apps I need.



Oh right! I think I have that on a tablet. I was confusing it with the alternative to Android that Google is developing when I asked you about it. Thanks for the info.




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