Man, please, you could at least read the whole thing. I provided the sample, randomly pulled from CPAN and that dude harped on one small extract.
> mixins
Hm, gonna have to admit i have no clue about those. Will read up at some point.
> It depends. If I'm on a modern Linux, sure, if it's not already there I can apt-get it. That's not always the case though.
Perl is on every linux, no exception. It may not be the newest one, but even then you can use perlbrew to install whatever version you want for your own user account. But seriously, perl is on every linux.
And even on windows it's as stupidly simple as downloading an installer and clicking 5 times.
> moose ... boilerplate
You wouldn't include Moose in a boilerplate thing.
> criticism
I work daily with Perl, i've considered MANY criticisms, i have a whole book of criticisms of my own. The problem you're running into is that i've already spent a hell of a lot more time thinking about those criticisms than you have.
>I provided the sample, randomly pulled from CPAN and that dude harped on one small extract.
I missed that part. But I find it highly amusing that you randomly pulled a sample file from CPAN an already failed your own test.
>Hm, gonna have to admit i have no clue about those. Will read up at some point.
Fair enough, but I feel compelled to point out that you've been harping on me all over this thread for not reading things yet you declare perl's OO (bolted on via a library, no less) superior to ruby's without even knowing how ruby's works.
>Perl is on every linux
Linux yes. Not every Unix, not every Windows.
>You wouldn't include Moose in a boilerplate thing.
It was. It was a boilerplate list of things one should use to make perl a modern language. I think they wanted to make one module that did all these uses for you so you could just use that, but the point remains. It takes a lot of modification to stock perl to bring it up to the level of the competition.
>The problem you're running into is that i've already spent a hell of a lot more time thinking about those criticisms than you have.
I worked daily with perl for half a decade. I can believe that you have spent more time thinking about the criticism because you apparently like perl. I had no emotional attachment to it so when I saw languages that didn't have those problems I left it and never looked back.
Wait, you'll only consider languages that come pre-installed on all Unices and Windows? That's a pretty short list!
Or are you complaining that Perl isn't available for some Unices or some versions of Windows? I'm curious to know what version of Unix or Windows has Python and/or Ruby interpreters available, but doesn't have Perl.
No, you've completely misunderstood my post. I was saying "I have to do all the effort to install perl and then I still have to do more work to actually write a program". We then took a detour where it was claimed there is no effort involved in installing perl. Well, sometimes there is. There is with other languages too, but at least once I have them installed I can just use them without having to go read about about current use statements I should be using.
Man, please, you could at least read the whole thing. I provided the sample, randomly pulled from CPAN and that dude harped on one small extract.
> mixins
Hm, gonna have to admit i have no clue about those. Will read up at some point.
> It depends. If I'm on a modern Linux, sure, if it's not already there I can apt-get it. That's not always the case though.
Perl is on every linux, no exception. It may not be the newest one, but even then you can use perlbrew to install whatever version you want for your own user account. But seriously, perl is on every linux.
And even on windows it's as stupidly simple as downloading an installer and clicking 5 times.
> moose ... boilerplate
You wouldn't include Moose in a boilerplate thing.
> criticism
I work daily with Perl, i've considered MANY criticisms, i have a whole book of criticisms of my own. The problem you're running into is that i've already spent a hell of a lot more time thinking about those criticisms than you have.