"Have innumerable script kiddies, scammers, doorway site creators, etc, used PHP for doing bad things? Did / do they constitute a significant part of the user community? Yes."
Does PHP have a significant taint to the rest of the development community? Yes. Are its "nicely designed tools" recognized and used outside the PHP community? Not that I've seen.
Wikipedia is a web site I use and sometimes poke at. Am I going to go looking at its code? Nope. In fact, there are several tools that I decided not to fix bugs in, but also not to use myself, when I realized they were PHP.
(Aside: have they ever removed, or even deprecated, any of the layers of hideously broken interfaces in the stdlib? Or are they still lying there as a trap for the unwary?)
Does PHP have a significant taint to the rest of the development community? Yes. Are its "nicely designed tools" recognized and used outside the PHP community? Not that I've seen.
Wikipedia is a web site I use and sometimes poke at. Am I going to go looking at its code? Nope. In fact, there are several tools that I decided not to fix bugs in, but also not to use myself, when I realized they were PHP.
(Aside: have they ever removed, or even deprecated, any of the layers of hideously broken interfaces in the stdlib? Or are they still lying there as a trap for the unwary?)